Audit listings
I think the point is that RESPECT goes both ways. We have done everything in our power to handle this thing with respect and we were told that it would be taken care of by many people on that park. Here we are, 2 days past the deadline, we have no records from Nine willows. We have Iggy accusing us of not caring, when we have reminded, called, traveled, and had other people remind those in charge of Nine willows that it is a serious request. What should we do now? Should we just let you guys slide AGAIN? Because you dont think we care, or should we be responsible and hold you to the same standard that we held DO to? The fact is that it is incredibly disrespectful for a barony to disregard a KINGDOM's request. Would you ignore your boss if they required a report by a certain date? At my job you wouldn't last long, so I have no sympathy for this situation.
Gequinn your about as dumb as a bucket of hair... i'm the asshole that puts shit right out in the open..i dont give a flying FUCK about your feelings about me.. and as long as my records remain somewhere withing this kingdom i'm going to Flame your group for being Total Idiots about this audit and anything else i see fit.. Nine willows Started Dark oasis i use to look up to some of the guys there in Nine willows and now all you are is a bunch of Sniffling cry babys that are going to take your marbles and Go play your own game like Dark oasis has done..
the people i care for in Nine willows know who they are and know me well enough that its a challenge when i make smart ass remarks like i do. Hopefully you hear a loud Pop when All thing is over and your punishment for having 7 months time to get your shit together is on paper... That loud pop i mentioned would be your head coming out of your ass..
New Guy had sarcastically Mentioned that "why dont we just remove Nine willows from Golden plains"
That would be all Fine and Dandy but you dont know how hard its going to be to get a sponsorship from another kingdom while your Sitting on Golden plains LAND!! any kingdom that even thinks about sponsoring any of you has to ask permission from the closest kingdom first and with your track record your not exactly going to get a good review..
i said this about Dark oasis and i'll say it about nine willows.. Your Fucking idiots for having the time to get things done and then Fucking it up.. your taking what could be a casual Fun filled game and making it into a barbecue and your ass is on the Rotisserie..
i'm at a loss for words. when people fuck up it would be nice for once that they take not only the responsibility of their actions but the consequences too. but the easy way out would be shooting yourself in the foot. I bet 10 to 1 that your field will bring that up just so they dont have to suffer the wrath of golden plains "Kingdom doesn't care about us whaa whaa" BULLSHIT.. a father disciplines his child for getting bad grades because he loves him not because the child is retarded and needs a helmet.
Note:: i say you and your alot im not directing this post at any single person just Nine willows as a whole.. So before you cry and try to get some sort of action taken towards me Gequinn know that there is NOT a damn thing you can do about my attitude.. but i really hope to see you on the ditch field at a major event, id like to show you how we treat tit bags where i live now..

the people i care for in Nine willows know who they are and know me well enough that its a challenge when i make smart ass remarks like i do. Hopefully you hear a loud Pop when All thing is over and your punishment for having 7 months time to get your shit together is on paper... That loud pop i mentioned would be your head coming out of your ass..
New Guy had sarcastically Mentioned that "why dont we just remove Nine willows from Golden plains"
That would be all Fine and Dandy but you dont know how hard its going to be to get a sponsorship from another kingdom while your Sitting on Golden plains LAND!! any kingdom that even thinks about sponsoring any of you has to ask permission from the closest kingdom first and with your track record your not exactly going to get a good review..
i said this about Dark oasis and i'll say it about nine willows.. Your Fucking idiots for having the time to get things done and then Fucking it up.. your taking what could be a casual Fun filled game and making it into a barbecue and your ass is on the Rotisserie..
i'm at a loss for words. when people fuck up it would be nice for once that they take not only the responsibility of their actions but the consequences too. but the easy way out would be shooting yourself in the foot. I bet 10 to 1 that your field will bring that up just so they dont have to suffer the wrath of golden plains "Kingdom doesn't care about us whaa whaa" BULLSHIT.. a father disciplines his child for getting bad grades because he loves him not because the child is retarded and needs a helmet.
Note:: i say you and your alot im not directing this post at any single person just Nine willows as a whole.. So before you cry and try to get some sort of action taken towards me Gequinn know that there is NOT a damn thing you can do about my attitude.. but i really hope to see you on the ditch field at a major event, id like to show you how we treat tit bags where i live now..

you know what, fuck it. im done with the flaming, with the shit talking, with the waawaas. im the fuck out of here. id rather look after my family than play "the peoples republic of amtgard" flame all you want this is the last tim im gonna be on this forum anymore so if you wanna bitch at me, i wont receive it here.
IM RICh BITCH!!!!!
IM RICh BITCH!!!!!
You know what I see and get from reading all this?
I see a bunch of petty children trowing fits and popping off with the mouth.
What the hell does it create in the end?
Bad feeling and Bull**** attitudes.
This is a fu***ng game and not a business.
So all your little "Examples" are redundant.
Personally I feel more than half of what was said has nothing to do with the real issues.
Monkey yeah he's a Flamer, what do you expect from someone with his maturity.
Darken I understand you have personal issues with a few people from here but backing the Flamer was disappointing for me.
Dame Lyra you I really dont know all that well, but what I have seen shows me you have little to no respect for the lower groups in any form.
For some one of your title and stature I would expect more from you.
Now I take great exception to being called a Fu**ing idiot which is exactly what was done here when you say everyone in NW is such.
Yet was anything said or done about it?
"Naw never its just that guy he knows no better."
Now I'm not here trying to fan the flames or flame anyone just speaking my mind and stating facts and my personal view.
These opinion reflect no one but my own.
So send your hate my way not that it will be given any credence to begin with.
Now that the BS is out of the way lets address the real issue.
Yeah the paper work didn't get in on time.
Who honestly expected anything different?
Am I throwing anyone under the bus?
Hell yeah I am, cause frankly it pisses me off.
I will not blame Gequin for it however as he had several other more important things to deal with.
Like Graduation and Survival, yeah he was not just in the hospital but could have died, had they not caught it in the very nick of time.
Should things have been done sooner or even a head of time.
F*** yeah it should have, but considering whos hands it was left in I cant say I'm surprised.
The whole I dont give a fuck attitude with some of the fields officers was a great indicator as to what would eventually happen.
Note I said some and said no names.
As a Member of the field, there is only so much I can do or say, specially when no one listens to anything I have to say.
SO do your damnedest with what ever edict you decide to send our way.
All you'll succeed in doing in convincing the rest of those who were all about sticking with you from the get go to side with those who didnt.
You want a smaller kingdom that is exactly what you will get.
Yeah this is where I should go get all sarcastic and shit then I'd be no better than those others.
Fact of the matter is this> Weight the facts both for and against and make sure its what you want, and will it get you to your final goal.
Remember all the talk of caring and support and unity did come from one major side right?
As the old saying goes Shot rolls down hill.
So does everything else from respect to knowledge.
Those who have it share it and thus get it in return.
When was the last time anyone was ever instructed how to actually do any of this from the top down?
If you teach someone to do things sloppily it only gets worse as those who were trained, train others.
Think on that.
I see a bunch of petty children trowing fits and popping off with the mouth.
What the hell does it create in the end?
Bad feeling and Bull**** attitudes.
This is a fu***ng game and not a business.
So all your little "Examples" are redundant.
Personally I feel more than half of what was said has nothing to do with the real issues.
Monkey yeah he's a Flamer, what do you expect from someone with his maturity.
Darken I understand you have personal issues with a few people from here but backing the Flamer was disappointing for me.
Dame Lyra you I really dont know all that well, but what I have seen shows me you have little to no respect for the lower groups in any form.
For some one of your title and stature I would expect more from you.
Now I take great exception to being called a Fu**ing idiot which is exactly what was done here when you say everyone in NW is such.
Yet was anything said or done about it?
"Naw never its just that guy he knows no better."
Now I'm not here trying to fan the flames or flame anyone just speaking my mind and stating facts and my personal view.
These opinion reflect no one but my own.
So send your hate my way not that it will be given any credence to begin with.
Now that the BS is out of the way lets address the real issue.
Yeah the paper work didn't get in on time.
Who honestly expected anything different?
Am I throwing anyone under the bus?
Hell yeah I am, cause frankly it pisses me off.
I will not blame Gequin for it however as he had several other more important things to deal with.
Like Graduation and Survival, yeah he was not just in the hospital but could have died, had they not caught it in the very nick of time.
Should things have been done sooner or even a head of time.
F*** yeah it should have, but considering whos hands it was left in I cant say I'm surprised.
The whole I dont give a fuck attitude with some of the fields officers was a great indicator as to what would eventually happen.
Note I said some and said no names.
As a Member of the field, there is only so much I can do or say, specially when no one listens to anything I have to say.
SO do your damnedest with what ever edict you decide to send our way.
All you'll succeed in doing in convincing the rest of those who were all about sticking with you from the get go to side with those who didnt.
You want a smaller kingdom that is exactly what you will get.
Yeah this is where I should go get all sarcastic and shit then I'd be no better than those others.
Fact of the matter is this> Weight the facts both for and against and make sure its what you want, and will it get you to your final goal.
Remember all the talk of caring and support and unity did come from one major side right?
As the old saying goes Shot rolls down hill.
So does everything else from respect to knowledge.
Those who have it share it and thus get it in return.
When was the last time anyone was ever instructed how to actually do any of this from the top down?
If you teach someone to do things sloppily it only gets worse as those who were trained, train others.
Think on that.
And if no one is held accountable, nothing changes. Everything stays the same, and no progress is made. I made it very clear what the reprucussions would be when I was there in April. I'm sorry that you thought that we were not serious, but I was. There is no need for the blame game, because it does no good. If you knew the monarchy was incapaple of fulfilling this SIMPLE request, then you should replace said monarchy. The kingdom does NOT want to loose NW as a part of our kingdom, and we have made it very clear that is not our intent. Does that mean that we can hold NW to a different standard than our other groups, certainly not. The old saying goes you made this bed......
Cobi you know I respect you and Shadow. I'm not playing the blame game and no I do not expect NW to be held to different standards. I think the standards that were put in place from the beginning were flawed.
what i would have liked is seeing some one step up and have the balls to call Monkey and anyone else who was putting the negative crap out there on their BS.
I said I understand that it was fucked that we didn't get it done.
I'm also asking what was I supposed to do with no power to do a damn thing?
Its no secret I am treated as a second rate citizen.
I will do what I can now that the verdict has been passed down.
But I am but a single person in this game with little to no respect.
Yeah I've already been informed of whats going down and I have volunteered my services to help the field anyway I can.
Being one of the few dues paid members of my field.
I will guarantee you this.
By September the records will be in full order once again, as I left them in 07 when I was PM!!!!!!!!
what i would have liked is seeing some one step up and have the balls to call Monkey and anyone else who was putting the negative crap out there on their BS.
I said I understand that it was fucked that we didn't get it done.
I'm also asking what was I supposed to do with no power to do a damn thing?
Its no secret I am treated as a second rate citizen.
I will do what I can now that the verdict has been passed down.
But I am but a single person in this game with little to no respect.
Yeah I've already been informed of whats going down and I have volunteered my services to help the field anyway I can.
Being one of the few dues paid members of my field.
I will guarantee you this.
By September the records will be in full order once again, as I left them in 07 when I was PM!!!!!!!!
My Maturity ROFLMAO!!
had Gequin not calld me out and calld me a troll i would have kept my oppinion to myself... she is the reason i ranted as long as i did about your park.
This not being a buisness? thats bullshit as well.. this is a buisness if it wasnt then why the hell do we keep records (ok well Why are we suppose to.. Sence DO and NW obviously arent with the trend).. why do we get "paid" for showing up (1pt in class of your choice).. saying this isn't a buisness is just a way to manipulate Stupid people that dont think for themselves..
Golden plains wanting to be a smaller kingdom?
If becoming smaller is what is going to happen because subgroups cannot Follow the corpora then thats what will happen, However becoming a free hold is just shooting yourself in the foot because any other kingdom you try to get sponcership under is going to treat you the same way, if not more harshly. Thats IF you even get another kingdom to sponcer you..
you might see me as immature or a Flamer but i speak the truth. the Truth hurts and thats why This thread is full of Hate.. it sux to have MONKEY being the guy that makes sence, because i'm suppose to be the chaotic antagonistic asshole.
i told this to dark oasis field to.. Kingdom passd the restrictions on paper and your getting mad about that buts its no diffrent than the previous 5 years that you havnt regularly Turnd in your records on time.. You have no voting rights your knights are Screwd in the knight circle etc etc.. so they are only putting what you've been doing to yourself in writing where you can see what you have done to yourself... i wish more people would take a step back breath and read the corpora..
i hope your field makes the right decision as individuals and they dont Follow what one specific click of people say.. its a sad day in nine willows when you all become sheep and follow blindly the words of manipulative ignorant "rebels"
had Gequin not calld me out and calld me a troll i would have kept my oppinion to myself... she is the reason i ranted as long as i did about your park.
This not being a buisness? thats bullshit as well.. this is a buisness if it wasnt then why the hell do we keep records (ok well Why are we suppose to.. Sence DO and NW obviously arent with the trend).. why do we get "paid" for showing up (1pt in class of your choice).. saying this isn't a buisness is just a way to manipulate Stupid people that dont think for themselves..
Golden plains wanting to be a smaller kingdom?
If becoming smaller is what is going to happen because subgroups cannot Follow the corpora then thats what will happen, However becoming a free hold is just shooting yourself in the foot because any other kingdom you try to get sponcership under is going to treat you the same way, if not more harshly. Thats IF you even get another kingdom to sponcer you..
you might see me as immature or a Flamer but i speak the truth. the Truth hurts and thats why This thread is full of Hate.. it sux to have MONKEY being the guy that makes sence, because i'm suppose to be the chaotic antagonistic asshole.
i told this to dark oasis field to.. Kingdom passd the restrictions on paper and your getting mad about that buts its no diffrent than the previous 5 years that you havnt regularly Turnd in your records on time.. You have no voting rights your knights are Screwd in the knight circle etc etc.. so they are only putting what you've been doing to yourself in writing where you can see what you have done to yourself... i wish more people would take a step back breath and read the corpora..
i hope your field makes the right decision as individuals and they dont Follow what one specific click of people say.. its a sad day in nine willows when you all become sheep and follow blindly the words of manipulative ignorant "rebels"
Let me correct you on something oh great and wise one.
first 5 years my Fat white ass Bitch when I was the PM the records were turned in on time and that was not 5 yrs ago. Not only did I get them in on time I got them in as asked in duplicate. I also straightened the damn mess out on my own. So if you are going to make a statement get the F***ng facts right
Second Gequinn Is our field monarch and is a G not a she. Also he didn't call you out, since you had already started.
Calling you out would be saying something like so where is monkey and his dipshit attitude.
What he did do was call a spade a spade and called you a troll and a Dick for contributing nothing worth while to the thread. That was not nor is it your business in any shape form or way.
Take care of your own responsibilities before you meddling in others.
IE: But the fuck out and leave it to the Adults.
Third: This is not a business due to the fact it is a NPO and pays no taxes, nor pays anyone for doing anything for said organization. We are however rewarded in other ways via our works in gaining levels, receiving awards act act, to represent it in any other way would change things entirely int the eyes of many. Wrong again huh? Are we seeing a pattern yet? FACTs and just the facts Ma'am.
As for truths, you would know real truths if they bit you in the ball sack. Its full of hate cause of dumbasses like yourself being allowed to cause it.
The civility of this entire thread didn't break down till you opened up and let the shit fall out of it.
If you had paid real attention to anything instead of going off at the mouth half cocked as normal you would have seen I am accepting of the judgment handed down and I knew it was inevitable as well, but Like an adult I kept my piece out of it. But there comes a time for any man when enough is enough and he has to say his piece. So I did and I will.
As for making right decisions I'm sure we will whether or not its the majority or not is a completely other story.
Something you should consider doing a little more of to towards things a little more important than a Game.
first 5 years my Fat white ass Bitch when I was the PM the records were turned in on time and that was not 5 yrs ago. Not only did I get them in on time I got them in as asked in duplicate. I also straightened the damn mess out on my own. So if you are going to make a statement get the F***ng facts right
Second Gequinn Is our field monarch and is a G not a she. Also he didn't call you out, since you had already started.
Calling you out would be saying something like so where is monkey and his dipshit attitude.
What he did do was call a spade a spade and called you a troll and a Dick for contributing nothing worth while to the thread. That was not nor is it your business in any shape form or way.
Take care of your own responsibilities before you meddling in others.
IE: But the fuck out and leave it to the Adults.
Third: This is not a business due to the fact it is a NPO and pays no taxes, nor pays anyone for doing anything for said organization. We are however rewarded in other ways via our works in gaining levels, receiving awards act act, to represent it in any other way would change things entirely int the eyes of many. Wrong again huh? Are we seeing a pattern yet? FACTs and just the facts Ma'am.
As for truths, you would know real truths if they bit you in the ball sack. Its full of hate cause of dumbasses like yourself being allowed to cause it.
The civility of this entire thread didn't break down till you opened up and let the shit fall out of it.
Once your maturity showed as always things started down the path it went. While others tried to keep things on a mature level.Monkey wrote:where do we place our bets on them not getting their records in on time...
and then double or nothing on them asking for an extension b/c of "mundane problems"
Any takers??
If you had paid real attention to anything instead of going off at the mouth half cocked as normal you would have seen I am accepting of the judgment handed down and I knew it was inevitable as well, but Like an adult I kept my piece out of it. But there comes a time for any man when enough is enough and he has to say his piece. So I did and I will.
As for making right decisions I'm sure we will whether or not its the majority or not is a completely other story.
Something you should consider doing a little more of to towards things a little more important than a Game.
id prefer if you make up titles for me.. that Oh great a wise one have more adjectives..
and i posted the betting pool to challenge your park into making the records in on time so maybe they would get their heads out of their ass and turn them in while they still had a chance..
yes YOU are accepting the punishment that will be handed down to you.. but whos to say the people that run your park wont accept it the same way..
for as long as you've known me I'd like to think you would know me a little better than you do, boy was i wrong..
Comparison's between Amtgard and a business is Still the same.. you even gave examples of other ways we're paid by promotions and other stuff that makes amtgard a business.. a Comparison doesn't have to be 100% accurate to still be true.. Just because you dont like what has been said about the way your management has run your local business doesn't mean you have to fight the fact that its still can be Considered a business by the rest of us....(Your Fields Tax's giving to the kingdom is still paying taxes as well just not to the federal Govt.)
congratulations.. What did you do about tako when you were told about the audit by Darken or when you heard the audit was getting closer to meeting time and your fields records were not in. but i wasn't Talking Solely about your Field.. Dark Oasis was the major Factor in that 5 year sted and i only used 5years because its a nice round number i'm sure Dark oasis hasn't had their records straight for more than that.... Maybe you should take a nap and reread then comment on that part again.. I'll wait....................
This is my Game this is how i play it.. i get on the forums i post the useful Stuff on here to be useful and i flame to be a antagonist.. every forum has it.. you think i'm bad on the GP list... go post on the E-sam boards and see how hot your thread gets from Miss punctuation and spelling..
i am the chaotic Part of Golden plains this is my Job. i've Helped noobs i've trained noobs i've tought people how to be better in the game but only get a pat on the back at most because the way i've become jaded about the "leadership" and Gave up and my attitude towards everyone has become one big joke...
if my posts strike a nerve it might be because ITS FUCKING TRUE!!! and your too blind to admit it but someone has to say it.. i dont have all the much tact when i'm talking because i dont care to.. i dont need the tact its not expected of me.. you want the truth well i'll give it to you the way i see it and it will be whole heartedly Brutal and honest..
So why am i posting on the Nine willow groups because it doesn't involve me? it involves EVERYONE. everyone has a say in how this kingdom is ran everyone has a vote even the people that are not dues paid can voice their opinion at an All thing and it will be taken into consideration. I'm here because i care because i want to spark a fire under Nine Willows ass and maybe they would have turn the records in the day i put up the Voting pool,, Inevitably Whining and bitching is far more up the latter than actually giving a damn about the records..
so instead of making this another Rose Scene Gequinn could have Just ignored me you Know damn well ignoring me is the better thing to do bear.. i can't believe you let my "maturity" bring you into this maybe our maturity isn't so different after all..
i'm actually thinking of making my posts Longer and full of more shit so take into consideration what i said about ignoring me and dont Fan the flames anymore than what you have to, because i'm having a WHOLE lotta fun..
If you want to talk about Taking care of responsibility again I'll give you Six months of my responsibilities and we'll see if your not sitting back on your ass mouth Agape shaking your head and feeling a little remorseful about bringing up MY responsibilities..
and i posted the betting pool to challenge your park into making the records in on time so maybe they would get their heads out of their ass and turn them in while they still had a chance..
yes YOU are accepting the punishment that will be handed down to you.. but whos to say the people that run your park wont accept it the same way..
for as long as you've known me I'd like to think you would know me a little better than you do, boy was i wrong..
Comparison's between Amtgard and a business is Still the same.. you even gave examples of other ways we're paid by promotions and other stuff that makes amtgard a business.. a Comparison doesn't have to be 100% accurate to still be true.. Just because you dont like what has been said about the way your management has run your local business doesn't mean you have to fight the fact that its still can be Considered a business by the rest of us....(Your Fields Tax's giving to the kingdom is still paying taxes as well just not to the federal Govt.)
bear wrote:first 5 years my Fat white ass Bitch when I was the PM the records were turned in on time and that was not 5 yrs ago. Not only did I get them in on time I got them in as asked in duplicate. I also straightened the damn mess out on my own. So if you are going to make a statement get the F***ng facts right
congratulations.. What did you do about tako when you were told about the audit by Darken or when you heard the audit was getting closer to meeting time and your fields records were not in. but i wasn't Talking Solely about your Field.. Dark Oasis was the major Factor in that 5 year sted and i only used 5years because its a nice round number i'm sure Dark oasis hasn't had their records straight for more than that.... Maybe you should take a nap and reread then comment on that part again.. I'll wait....................
Gequinn sounds and reads like a Chicks name.. i'm glad you finally Clarified that because as of all her posts i thought it was just another Girl from your field trying to make a name for herself and not be a blanket bunny... Thanks bear.. i might stop calling Her and She..Second Gequinn Is our field monarch and is a G not a she. Also he didn't call you out, since you had already started.
Calling you out would be saying something like so where is monkey and his dipshit attitude.
is Definitely Calling me out.. Dont put on the Gloves unless your willing to box... i'm not going to sit idlely by when there is a perfect chance for me to talk shit to someone that hardly knows me... keep your noobs in check and let them know who they're fucking with before opening their mouth and putting their feelings out there to get hurt..Gequinn wrote:Yeah, yeah, go try to be a fail troll somewhere else Monkey. That snide post was entirely unnecessary. And furthermore, why are you even posting in this thread anyway? It has nothing to do with you whatsoever. So please, go be a dick somewhere else.
This is my Game this is how i play it.. i get on the forums i post the useful Stuff on here to be useful and i flame to be a antagonist.. every forum has it.. you think i'm bad on the GP list... go post on the E-sam boards and see how hot your thread gets from Miss punctuation and spelling..
i am the chaotic Part of Golden plains this is my Job. i've Helped noobs i've trained noobs i've tought people how to be better in the game but only get a pat on the back at most because the way i've become jaded about the "leadership" and Gave up and my attitude towards everyone has become one big joke...
if my posts strike a nerve it might be because ITS FUCKING TRUE!!! and your too blind to admit it but someone has to say it.. i dont have all the much tact when i'm talking because i dont care to.. i dont need the tact its not expected of me.. you want the truth well i'll give it to you the way i see it and it will be whole heartedly Brutal and honest..
So why am i posting on the Nine willow groups because it doesn't involve me? it involves EVERYONE. everyone has a say in how this kingdom is ran everyone has a vote even the people that are not dues paid can voice their opinion at an All thing and it will be taken into consideration. I'm here because i care because i want to spark a fire under Nine Willows ass and maybe they would have turn the records in the day i put up the Voting pool,, Inevitably Whining and bitching is far more up the latter than actually giving a damn about the records..
so instead of making this another Rose Scene Gequinn could have Just ignored me you Know damn well ignoring me is the better thing to do bear.. i can't believe you let my "maturity" bring you into this maybe our maturity isn't so different after all..
i'm actually thinking of making my posts Longer and full of more shit so take into consideration what i said about ignoring me and dont Fan the flames anymore than what you have to, because i'm having a WHOLE lotta fun..
If you want to talk about Taking care of responsibility again I'll give you Six months of my responsibilities and we'll see if your not sitting back on your ass mouth Agape shaking your head and feeling a little remorseful about bringing up MY responsibilities..
Then you must be pronouncing it wrong.Monkey wrote:Gequinn sounds and reads like a Chicks name.. i'm glad you finally Clarified that because as of all her posts i thought it was just another Girl from your field trying to make a name for herself and not be a blanket bunny... Thanks bear.. i might stop calling Her and She..
Lets see if this can get settled out heres some info that's might be usefull. I skipped alot of the last post but the one I stopped on was Bear saying what are we supposed to do with no power.
First off just because you don't hold a position doesn't mean you don't have power. In the copora there are guidelines to removing an officer that is not doing there job, and I'm sure in that situation Kingdom will back you, trust me I've been through it before. Nobody has sole power and is exclude from this not even the King at the time, the power is in the hands of the people that give a shit and get off there asses and do it.
Doughboy said that Tako was avoiding everyone and not turning in the records, well we are a nonprofit group and that is considered stealing. You can get the law to his house, you can press charges, you can get your records back, unless they get destroyed, in which case there is still actions that can be takin.
No one person on your field is totally responsible for what happened, everyone is. For those of you that at least tryed to get it fixed I applaud you for it, those of you that tried nothing, you obviously don't really care. I know who I've talked to about it wether in person or over the phone many of times, and from everything I've heard some of those people really don't give a fuck with what happens. As a member of NW it is everyone's responsibility to make sure the group runs well, and makes sure that what needs to get done gets done.
Here's the kicker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As for the punishment.
You can't vote in a kingdom althings or elections.
well your records have to be turned into kingdom to be able to do that anyways, and they weren't. So since nothing has changed it's not really anything that affects ya'll..
Your Knights can't vote in the COK.
again if kingdom doesn't have your records they can't vote anyways.
so again nothing changed
Nobody can be knighted.
If you had any prospects that sucks for them. but if nobody is even close to it then, again nothing changed.
You have to get kingdom approval on any awards to be handed out.
Well at least now kingdom will know who to look at on your field to be recognized. So this is actually a real big bonus.
So in the long run ya'll are stuck going 1 more year of doing the same stuff that ya'll have been doing for the last 2 or 3 years. If these things are something that you were really looking forward to doing, the work together, and I don't just mean monarchy I mean EVERYONE, and fix the problems to fix your field.
First off just because you don't hold a position doesn't mean you don't have power. In the copora there are guidelines to removing an officer that is not doing there job, and I'm sure in that situation Kingdom will back you, trust me I've been through it before. Nobody has sole power and is exclude from this not even the King at the time, the power is in the hands of the people that give a shit and get off there asses and do it.
Doughboy said that Tako was avoiding everyone and not turning in the records, well we are a nonprofit group and that is considered stealing. You can get the law to his house, you can press charges, you can get your records back, unless they get destroyed, in which case there is still actions that can be takin.
No one person on your field is totally responsible for what happened, everyone is. For those of you that at least tryed to get it fixed I applaud you for it, those of you that tried nothing, you obviously don't really care. I know who I've talked to about it wether in person or over the phone many of times, and from everything I've heard some of those people really don't give a fuck with what happens. As a member of NW it is everyone's responsibility to make sure the group runs well, and makes sure that what needs to get done gets done.
Here's the kicker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As for the punishment.
You can't vote in a kingdom althings or elections.
well your records have to be turned into kingdom to be able to do that anyways, and they weren't. So since nothing has changed it's not really anything that affects ya'll..
Your Knights can't vote in the COK.
again if kingdom doesn't have your records they can't vote anyways.
so again nothing changed
Nobody can be knighted.
If you had any prospects that sucks for them. but if nobody is even close to it then, again nothing changed.
You have to get kingdom approval on any awards to be handed out.
Well at least now kingdom will know who to look at on your field to be recognized. So this is actually a real big bonus.
So in the long run ya'll are stuck going 1 more year of doing the same stuff that ya'll have been doing for the last 2 or 3 years. If these things are something that you were really looking forward to doing, the work together, and I don't just mean monarchy I mean EVERYONE, and fix the problems to fix your field.
monkey on page 4 wrote:i told this to dark oasis field to.. Kingdom passd the restrictions on paper and your getting mad about that buts its no diffrent than the previous 5 years that you havnt regularly Turnd in your records on time.. You have no voting rights your knights are Screwd in the knight circle etc etc.. so they are only putting what you've been doing to yourself in writing where you can see what you have done to yourself... i wish more people would take a step back breath and read the corpora..
i kinda Mentiond all that but you sure did put it alot prettier than i did.. thanks darken

Don't forget I gave you "Osama bin Monkey."Monkey wrote:id prefer if you make up titles for me.. that Oh great a wise one have more adjectives..

I'm going to admit -- in print -- that about 95% of what Monkey says is what I've already been thinking, only I have better filters when I finally say what I'm thinking. I'll bet I'm far from the only one on here who also agrees with the "spirit" of what Monkey says, if not the exact verbage.Monkey wrote:if my posts strike a nerve it might be because ITS FUCKING TRUE!!! and your too blind to admit it but someone has to say it.. i dont have all the much tact when i'm talking because i dont care to.. i dont need the tact its not expected of me.. you want the truth well i'll give it to you the way i see it and it will be whole heartedly Brutal and honest..
He's smart. He knows the game and he knows how it works. You may not like the expletives, but Monkey is usually right about what he says.
I haven't been playing as long as you guys and I've never been a PM or a monarch or anything else of importance, so I think I see this in a less biased manner than most of you. Obviously real life interferes, which is one reason I don't run for office...my job has me traveling a lot and I know I wouldn't be able to devote the time needed to do a good job. But, this field is the last one to be audited. You guys have known for months that it was coming. I saw how Darken, Flint and Akkir busted ass to get our records in. That's part of the commitment you guys make when you run for office. If you can't do it, don't. Just play when you can and have fun.
Not knowing ya'll, I would say that you need a change of PM. I don't know who Tako is, or if I do, I don't know it. It seems like he doesn't want to cooperate with this. Time for a change. Put in people who have the time and want to make the sacrifices that are necessary to do the job.
I'm not trying to be a flamer. I'm just reading all of this and it seems pretty simple to me. It's too bad that there are now consequences when there have been months to prepare. I'm sorry to see this as it does take away some of the fun part of the game.
Not knowing ya'll, I would say that you need a change of PM. I don't know who Tako is, or if I do, I don't know it. It seems like he doesn't want to cooperate with this. Time for a change. Put in people who have the time and want to make the sacrifices that are necessary to do the job.
I'm not trying to be a flamer. I'm just reading all of this and it seems pretty simple to me. It's too bad that there are now consequences when there have been months to prepare. I'm sorry to see this as it does take away some of the fun part of the game.
Yup, all of that has been discussed by some of the members of the field. And honestly, the ones who are mad at the "punishment" don't really seem to get that nothing is really changing for us. I have no problem with it. Hopefully when we vote on officials either this week or the next, we get a PM that will really get stuff done. Hopefully things will get much better from here on.Darken wrote:As for the punishment.
You can't vote in a kingdom althings or elections.
well your records have to be turned into kingdom to be able to do that anyways, and they weren't. So since nothing has changed it's not really anything that affects ya'll..
Your Knights can't vote in the COK.
again if kingdom doesn't have your records they can't vote anyways.
so again nothing changed
Nobody can be knighted.
If you had any prospects that sucks for them. but if nobody is even close to it then, again nothing changed.
You have to get kingdom approval on any awards to be handed out.
Well at least now kingdom will know who to look at on your field to be recognized. So this is actually a real big bonus.
So in the long run ya'll are stuck going 1 more year of doing the same stuff that ya'll have been doing for the last 2 or 3 years. If these things are something that you were really looking forward to doing, the work together, and I don't just mean monarchy I mean EVERYONE, and fix the problems to fix your field.
Not flaming at all. You actually put your thoughts down in a nice manner. Thanks. And yes, there will be a PM change, and if Bear will do what he says he will, I'm totally going to vote for him as next PM. And as for the real life, Tako really isn't that bad, he doesn't really avoid any of us, he just works all of the time.Reina Flint wrote:I haven't been playing as long as you guys and I've never been a PM or a monarch or anything else of importance, so I think I see this in a less biased manner than most of you. Obviously real life interferes, which is one reason I don't run for office...my job has me traveling a lot and I know I wouldn't be able to devote the time needed to do a good job. But, this field is the last one to be audited. You guys have known for months that it was coming. I saw how Darken, Flint and Akkir busted ass to get our records in. That's part of the commitment you guys make when you run for office. If you can't do it, don't. Just play when you can and have fun.
Not knowing ya'll, I would say that you need a change of PM. I don't know who Tako is, or if I do, I don't know it. It seems like he doesn't want to cooperate with this. Time for a change. Put in people who have the time and want to make the sacrifices that are necessary to do the job.
I'm not trying to be a flamer. I'm just reading all of this and it seems pretty simple to me. It's too bad that there are now consequences when there have been months to prepare. I'm sorry to see this as it does take away some of the fun part of the game.
And honestly for me, this forum takes no fun away from me. I go tot he field to hang out with my friends and have a good time. Amtgard will always be fun for me no matter what.
i was right about you..all except the girl part.. but i still bet if you checkd your chromosomes it would be XXY.. so that still makes me partially right.. Anyway back to the point.. your Dumb as a bucket of hair.. and your trying to make a name foryourself so not to be conciderd a blanket bunny..
Why dont you Just ignore me?!? ... i know why... Because your weak.. and your going to play my game aslong as you think your doing some big thing by sticking up to the "asshole GP Flaming Troll" ... JUST SHUT UP dont feed into my "petty immaturity"... i will ruin the game for you and then you might cry and i dont want you to flood your moms basement with all those Tears of hate because i didn't accept you for who you are trying to be...
Why dont you Just ignore me?!? ... i know why... Because your weak.. and your going to play my game aslong as you think your doing some big thing by sticking up to the "asshole GP Flaming Troll" ... JUST SHUT UP dont feed into my "petty immaturity"... i will ruin the game for you and then you might cry and i dont want you to flood your moms basement with all those Tears of hate because i didn't accept you for who you are trying to be...